1.1 First Look At UAP & Welcome To Film The World Podcast

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yes, the Trick and the Father! Yes, so welcome to Trick and Father F.T.W( Film The World)

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@Fatherbliss23
You'll you'll laugh in my opening comment and story from this evening. So my wife goes in to start doing some schoolwork on her laptop. And this is her work laptop. So this is directly related to her work, but that's beside the point. Yeah. So just making you're really in trouble. It's very important. To set the stage. So she starts typing your password, right?

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@Fatherbliss23
Doesn't work. Tries a few more times. Doesn't work right. We're like, well, that's weird. So we go over possibilities, like obvious stuff. Caps, like things like that, right? She reboots. Does does the super obvious things, right? Nothing right, doesn't matter. Ironically, like their IT department still is working this late at night so she can get a hold of the IT guy Long story short, do you know what it was?

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@Fatherbliss23
The the "N" key on her keyboard isn't working I don't even know how she noticed or figured that out. But again, that's one of those weird challenges with modern technology that you have to look out for, right? Like, it takes a beating and, you know, keys don't work. And I was laughing going like, you got me a USB keyboard.

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@Fatherbliss23
Good, good. But, you know, it's always something, right? As we say.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It's always something, man. It's always something. That's that's hilarious, though, man. Like, I, I mean, I was dinking around this week with Angus trying to work on Python. Like, I pretended like I knew something and I was like, right now I'm just going to watch, like, 8 hours of video, and it's going to be fine. You know? Like, what could possibly go wrong and then we get stuck, basically trying to dump files into the MAC system files because of lack of permissions and my lack of knowledge of MAC, which I'm not afraid to admit.

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@Trick_O_Moore
I'll be completely honest that MAC runs me into the ground. Okay? It's just so much nicer when you've got a PC and you can, like, control so many more variables and it's just.

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@Fatherbliss23
Yeah.

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@Trick_O_Moore
I don't know. It's. I only picked up the whole ecosystem about four years ago, so.

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@Fatherbliss23
Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It is amazing. Oh, my God. Did did you see. So T.O.E. so the theory of everything they went, oh, uploaded a video with that guy from Survivor. Did you see that?

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@Fatherbliss23
No. No, I did not. Although I do have something to talk about in regards to this, so go ahead.

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@Trick_O_Moore
No, I just thought I was I thought it was extremely interesting because he kept bringing up things that I didn't realize he had done. And one of those things was he he apparently was one of the first people to edit his film in the field and record himself in the field. So I guess, like before like mainstream, you know, TV, you've always got like you get the talent, which would be this guy.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Um, and I apologize. I don't remember his name off the top of my head, but like, you don't have your talent and then you're gonna have somebody filming. Somebody pulling focus. Somebody managing media lenses. Yeah. Just it goes on and on and on and on and on. But it's never just, like, dumb man. Right. And I guess, like, changed that norm.

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@Trick_O_Moore
And based on what he said, he me deliver re to, like, the Discovery Channel and like for like on Survivor and doing, like, all these crazy this survivor man thing and he he rendered all of his videos deliverable to a studio production, which is like unheard of because like to make delivery, I'm not even certain what's required to make delivery, but I know that the standards are extremely high so kudos to that man.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It's just interesting but apparently hunted Bigfoot or whatever. But so what did you hear in UAP? Is this. Yeah.

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@Fatherbliss23
OK, so this comes directly from the high strangeness subreddit. Just so we get our references clear, and here's what's interesting about this, right? So you know how we were talking the other day. I was giving you that example of my friend in Finland that was hearing the strange loud vibrations and it was thinking it was something from a local military base.

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@Fatherbliss23
You said you'd picked up something similar in Tennessee, right?

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just think like, oddly enough, I live on a flight path for either like the, the m d, I don't know, commuter path and some of these big time execs, they all have their got like some serious equipment as far as like helicopters and stuff. And I think that there must be some kind of a flight path, but I would assume that hers is much more credible than mine because she already sounds more credible.

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@Fatherbliss23
I mean, it's possible OK, so check this out. Right? So first of all, the subreddit post opens with nightly booms. Now, this anyone experiencing something similar near them and the article was from a local news station and this was from southern New Hampshire. Reports of like boom shaking USGS, no indication of earthquake, FAA, no record of military plane activity.

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@Fatherbliss23
Sounds pretty standard. Like nothing super interesting there. It's like a scroll to comments. Right, OK. And someone else said this is the best kind of hi, strangest post. It's regional and mysterious, multiple corroborating reports. Right. OK, as I scroll down, I get more and more interested because about a third way down the page, somebody posted a ton of things, especially from this year in all kinds of different states.

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@Fatherbliss23
And by the way, a lot of these are localized in your area, which is really fascinating.

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@Trick_O_Moore
That.

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@Fatherbliss23
Some people in people in the UK, people in different parts of the United States, faceted, right? That's so weird. Then it says here. So there was something called sky quakes. People started referencing and someone said, that's really interesting an rabbit hole to dive into because they're incredible magnitude similar to earthquakes, but they happen as it sounds like in the atmosphere.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right. Some of the other more interesting theories were meteorites breaking apart in our atmosphere. And then as they dissipate and fall to the ground, they're not big enough, I guess, you know, cause craters, craters or anything disturbing like that, but enough to actually cause shakes and booms in your house. However, the regularity implies to me something else is going on.

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@Fatherbliss23
So somebody else brought up, could it be weapons testing folks are like in heavily populated areas of New Hampshire? Don't think so. Why wouldn't that be in the desert, right? Yeah. And like I know that you have a lot of military activity and things in your area, so then that doesn't seem strange, but there's sites. But the experiences are similar, and it's very much like what you described to me, right?

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@Fatherbliss23
So for our listeners, that would be a lot of vibration. Similar an earthquake, right? Things shaking off the shells, big booms could be sonic and stuff like that. But it's happening at an increasing frequency. And like I was saying the other day, a lot of these stories are coming out with like a lot of consistency. You know, there's there's it won't be just like, oh, two people saw TIC TAC, right?

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@Fatherbliss23
It's more like 16 people saw it and five of them got it on video. Right. That's that's been happening all the summer. It's very frequent.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Oh, yeah.

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@Fatherbliss23
Pretty fascinating, right?

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@Trick_O_Moore
I think it is super fascinating. You know, how the UAP is kind of made its resurgence in the year. You know, I, I told you this not that long ago, but I checked out In Plain Sight from Ross Colthart.

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@Fatherbliss23
And.

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@Trick_O_Moore
He offered some really interesting insights to things that I had missed even this year as to like interviews on whether it be on the Joe Rogan podcast that he didn't have time to see or whatnot, just through sheer workweeks. I mean, we miss things here and there. But, um, you know, he went into detail, I guess, on the main report that was released earlier this year in June.

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@Trick_O_Moore
And then I think there was an August report as well. But yeah, I think it's, it's definitely something fascinating and something that I want to continue to navigate through as we, you know, start working on film a little bit more and really get out into the field and see, you know, our the Stephen Greer's of the world like on the money on this thing.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Like what is Bob Lazar

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@Fatherbliss23


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@Trick_O_Moore
Have to do with any of this? I just started the book Dreamland and I'll be honest, like George Knapp is a legitimate reporter. He's done sure. He's done his due diligence, just like Ross says. And I find these people incredibly credible. Can you say that all right.

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@Fatherbliss23
We just did well. Yeah, we just did.

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@Trick_O_Moore
We just did. So if anything, I think that always the wrong question in this department is, you know, like, what are are there other entities at play? Ah, is there a, you know, an alien man? I think that those questions are never really I Does it even matter?

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@Fatherbliss23
I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's just a fascinating topic, right? Speaking of which, so I was listening to that UFO podcast earlier tonight.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Oh, yes. Tell me about that.

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@Fatherbliss23
And yeah, and that was fascinating because they they made a comment about Tom DeLonge that I thought you'd find super interesting. And it was one of the hosts of the show. It wasn't their guest. And what he said was because the topic came up is, is Tom DeLonge a government informant? Does he see some sort of plans to to misinform us and throw us off Neither of the people on today's particular show thought that was the case.

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@Fatherbliss23
But here's what they did say that I thought was curious. They said, I feel like Tom has seen a bunch of weird things run across a lot of information that the rest of us don't have access to, because, again, the more fascinating people we've run across have sources. Right. A lot of sources agree. It's like Doctor Greer and people like that.

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@Fatherbliss23
You know, they have people feeding them things right. And what the host said was this. I feel like if a complete story is 100 bits of information, Tom has perhaps 30 to 40, and he's holding a story together around, you know, roughly like a third of the actual truth. Right. Yeah. And they're like, that's the problem, right? Right there.

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@Fatherbliss23
You can pretty easily steer you wrong because Tom is like come up with this whole composite story. And he, he feels like it's 100% and it's not . So that's a that's a really good way of looking at it, right? Because they're not saying he's wrong. They're saying him thinking this is the definitive truth and like he is in possession of all the facts is incorrect.

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@Fatherbliss23
And I was like yeah. I mean, from a scientific perspective, I think you and I would agree, right? Like until until we have flying saucers and alien contact or whatever. I'm not willing to say any one thing is the truth because we just don't know, you know?

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. You know, I along that line, you know, I always just drives me nuts when people always try to discredit other people, man. Like they mean this entire saga you know, of like, tearing down specific people. I love that. They're like, everybody has, like, a purpose and place. In this world. And we always talk about this, and I always feel like, no, no matter how weird or, you know, whatever, they're kind of going on.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Sometimes it's not advantageous to society to keep them there. But, you know, these elements create the best things we've ever had, you know, on ever. Right. And because those things exist, I guess the best things can exist. And it's kind of nice to know that like, you know, like this Tom guy, he literally quit Blink182 to go and, you know, try to go down this path to become more of something because apparently becoming like a rock star or whatever.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah, I don't know, you know, because you really consider I guess he's like pop punk kind of.

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@Fatherbliss23
Yeah. Yeah. Post-punk, whatever they call it. These days.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, man. I just find it super fascinating that he was willing to do that. Now, I will also say that I didn't believe him either, and I didn't even know he had a company called TTSA. But thank you to Ross. I was able to get some serious insight to this company. And then I referenced Greer's movie that he actually put out recently called The Cosmic Hoax and kind of goes into detail as far as TTSA and kind of, you know, has a alleged's in there.

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@Trick_O_Moore
But the one thing that I will say is Ross had mentioned that through Russian hackers, they released a lot of communications between him and high level ranking officials. Either retired or within the government. And that just kind of gives endless credibility to do his story a little bit. And then the fact that, you know, nobody's denied TTSA working directly with the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense.

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@Trick_O_Moore
I think it's Department of Defense. Those are the two primaries with all the big operations and whatnot. I just find that very interesting. You know, I find that really cool. Yeah. It could be some big fairy tale just kind of like the inventor man that works for the Navy and keeps coming out with.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right.

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@Trick_O_Moore
I want to see dude. I want him to put out a paten on like the Starship Troopers suits or like a galactic battle cruiser. Like, I need I need a serious paten this year. You know, I think that would be a great Christmas present because I don't think we're going to get food or Christmas presents this year.

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@Fatherbliss23
You're probably right. You're probably right. Yeah. There's something I thought was interesting, too, that came up on that UFO podcast today. Is so they had Kurt, I think it's Joe Mungol. I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that right. I don't want to butcher this because they went over to the podcast to come, and he's a fascinating individual to listen to it.

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@Fatherbliss23
Very, very highly intelligent individual. And the topic came up, you know, why don't more notable scientists like are man Neil? You know, for instance, what why these people don't endorse this topic more and it was fascinating right. He said you know, the way science has been now for decades is very specialized, highly specialized and you so often, you know, you're only the only credibility really is staying relevant to your community.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right. And it's not within the community it's the problem is it's the public perception that's the problem. Right. And this is a topic you and I discuss a lot.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah.

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@Fatherbliss23
And that was his point. Because he said you want to stay smart in the public eye because if you don't, your research, your credentials, like everything kind of goes down the drain. Right? So he said the issue really is not wanting to appear to be unintelligent when you're discussing these topics. And he said, unfortunately, you know, at least in recent times, discussing UFOs and UAP's is considered to be unintelligent.

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@Fatherbliss23
And his theory is that's change and it's changing, right? It's not that's not going to be the way it is ten years from now. That's my prediction.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. I mean, I like that. What's that guy's name? I think it's names like Ivan or something. I like how he always kind of brings up, like, these topics because I know he's that professor at Harvard, and he was the one who thought that that that meteorite that was flying near the earth, I think it was a meteorite, at least pretty sure it was.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It was just it was a strange shape and it was going straight through our solar system and our galaxy with no apparent deviation. So it's really strange that it was able to fly as straight as it was. And then it was a strange shape. So then he thought it was kind of like a UAP kind of affiliate thing.

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@Trick_O_Moore
But then he always references like, wouldn't it be kind of like arrogant of us to think that we could be the only things? And that's where I think that like that's the fall off, right? Like, you know, convincing people that there are multiple species there. Like there are other things that are living and whatever. I mean, sure, but it's like, I don't know, man.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Like, I mean, there's you get some crazy ideas out there not saying that they're bad. I think all ideas are important, you know, and if you don't, you know, consider a lot of these things, that's how, you know, you you become, I guess, a footnote of history, right?

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@Fatherbliss23
Mhm. So it's always.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Good to know these things.

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@Fatherbliss23
They were discussing that today on the podcast about some of Tom Delonge's theories about localized consciousness and things like I found it fascinating and something I really want to dove into just to understand that because I think, I think Doctor Greer is on to something with that, right? I mean, we all know that meditation and some of those things, even if aliens aren't real, has value, right?

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@Fatherbliss23
I mean, there's lots of studies on that regardless really of what you're meditating on. I just happen to think intellectually it makes sense if we're going to focus on the same thing there's there's power in that, right? You know, there's there's something to be said about all all the people in a localized populace focusing on the same ideology or intent.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right. And that's that's where I think this kind of wheels off into the direction of metaphysics a little bit. But it's still faster than. Right. Well, I think, by the way, you're referencing this story. I found something here on the Google machine about a paper from a Harvard researchers with the tagline here is Aliens Dump Trash in our solar system back in 2017.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Oh yes.

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@Fatherbliss23
That one that one. Yeah that's really awesome. Yeah.

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@Trick_O_Moore
No that's like that's fantastic. I just know but it like kind of what you were saying I think that it's important to recognize that a lot of this stuff is compartmentalized. I mean I think I've probably watched the Bob Lazar on Joe Rogan's podcast I crap you not 20 times but I like are you kidding me. This is ridiculous.

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@Trick_O_Moore
I don't know but like the man is so freaking bloody convincing and then you go and see like the behavioral panel or whatever and they say like there's no way, you know, that this man could be telling the truth. And it's like.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Everybody has their own self-fulfilling prophecies and that's all there is to it, folks.

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@Fatherbliss23
It's true. It's true. We become to some degree what we believe and we limit ourselves on potential all the time, don't we?

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. Well, I don't know if you can get rid of certain people, right? By default through cognitive bias and not look past or into a certain situation and see something new because they're going in with a frame set. You have to like have this like openness or something. If you're going to go and, you know, look at something, maybe either you don't believe in or just to like actually visualize what is taking place because you're not going to be able to re-communicate.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Are you going to be able to communicate that with somebody else? Like, hey, this and this happen when it's like completely against something that you're against. It can't be something that you believe in.

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@Fatherbliss23
Right? Well, and a I had referenced that to you a while ago where I ran across the theory that everything was from philosophy probably 20 years ago, and that was a book by Ken Wilbur, and he's got some controversy around him. Right. But I really like his meme theory, which says, unless you're open to the possibility of change, you will defend your view on things aggressively.

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@Fatherbliss23
You know, you and you see that in our society now more, I would say, than any time in recent memory, certainly in our lifetimes, people are willing to die on the Hill, as they say, which I'm kind of tired of that phrase. But it does hold true, right, where you're like, but why? Why aren't you open to the possibility that maybe you don't know everything?

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@Fatherbliss23
Oh, hey, speaking of that, oh, my God, you're going to love the point. You got to listen to this podcast when you get a sack. Right, at least today's episode so the the researcher that was on there, who's also a filmmaker, by the way, he said something that I found so relevant and fits what we discuss all the time to a "T".

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@Fatherbliss23
And what he said was this Why does a person's political affiliations or what they're into in general have anything to do with their scientific discoveries? Like how did we wind up in this in this weird nebula of of controversy where people just hit that brick wall all the time where they're like, hey, I don't agree with your ideology, which means all of your ideas are crap.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. See.

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@Fatherbliss23
That doesn't make any sense. You know, he was going through a number of of big names you and I talk about around this topic. And he said, look, OK, you're really into Trump. Great. You're really into Democracy. Awesome. I'm going to evaluate whatever you have to say based on what you're saying. I'm also going to look at your credentials.

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@Fatherbliss23
But, you know, to to a more important degree, what's your theory, right? And does it sound plausible looking to back it up? He said, you know, oddly, in our modern age, we've gotten to this place where that's that's the thing. People get hung up on that. And he and I didn't listen to the whole thing yet because we signed this call.

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@Fatherbliss23
But where he left off with this is is to say, would we take away any of the scientific breakthroughs from World War Two if they came from Nazi researchers, which you and I have talked about a number of times? And of course, the answer is no. However, if you took what's going on in our society in the last two years, would half the population say yes and I think he's got a valid point, because that's exactly what we're seeing play out in the media right now.

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@Fatherbliss23
And it's fascinating, right? You got politics. Sure. But you got science. Sure. Why are they interconnected when they shouldn't be right? It should matter.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. Well, like I think we talked about this quite a few times. It's it's very interesting how that whole dynamic plays out because I don't think there's really a place for that in science or anything because, you know, if you go and reference any of this compartmentalized, whatever, and then they go through credibility, right? So, you know, what's the bad thing about Bob Lazar?

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@Trick_O_Moore
Are they they say that like something and the Vegas territory he got flagged for, I'm not even going to mention it because it's not something to do with the ladies. OK.

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@Fatherbliss23
It's business related is what it comes down to.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It's business. It was a business venture that apparently I don't know, it doesn't look whatever. So I was just like and then that whole thing is supposed to weed your yield shed or shade on his whole operation. Right. So my my whole question is, if there is a neutral thing, whether it be like political or whatever, these people can't work together because they don't have the same ideals, even though they're studying the same field.

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@Trick_O_Moore
Like these thing like that doesn't make sense, does it?

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@Fatherbliss23
No.

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@Trick_O_Moore
It seems like very limited.

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@Fatherbliss23
That exact topic came up on the podcast and I thought it was a great example because again, the the guest that was on there, he was like, it shouldn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like, what does it have to do with the story? Nothing that it's just someone trying to discredit this guy based on their own subset of beliefs.

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@Fatherbliss23
And of course, you know, religion factors in here too, even though it probably shouldn't, right? Yeah. And that's another interesting topic is like and this will be something that our viewers will get to know us for. But, you know, you can speak about what you do, right? But I've done a lot of like heavy spirituality and things that I believe in and metaphysical things and stuff.

00;29;09;10 - 00;29;31;20
@Fatherbliss23
You know, I've got a kind of a crazy worldview compared to what's popular in our country. However, once we start talking about like UFOs or science or stuff, I mean, my my researcher, analyst brain takes over and has nothing to do with that at all. You know, I'm not I'm not like looking back at this going, well, it's the ancient Greek gods coming back.

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@Fatherbliss23
And it's not UFOs at all. I know it's a separate topic. It's interesting, but I'm not you know, I want to look at this from a scientific basis first and foremost, right? Yeah. It would have nothing to do with the rest of my beliefs, you know?

00;29;45;06 - 00;30;03;08
@Trick_O_Moore
Exactly. I mean, that's like the total disconnect, right? Like, you know, I mean, we've seen countless shows, right? We've seen a lot of good shows, actually. Yeah. You know, and like some people that kind of went down the right path and some people they kind of veered off. And I was like, Right, bro, where's episode or where season three?

00;30;03;08 - 00;30;24;17
@Trick_O_Moore
You know, like Hellier bro. I mean, that's not like a call out, but I think that is definitely a call out. That's it. That was a miss man. That they could have been on season four in 2021 what are they doing? I don't know. They, they had, they have some serious talent in that group, you know.

00;30;25;00 - 00;30;25;14
@Trick_O_Moore
They do.

00;30;26;14 - 00;30;49;16
@Fatherbliss23
They sure do. Right. And that's I think something interesting and you know, that's, that's a factor, I think where people get into, you know, these situations where they didn't really intend to be successful. Right. And and again, if we link it back to UAP, I think that's why like Bob Lazar is so fascinating to me personally because he's even said numerous times, like, I want the information to get out.

00;30;49;18 - 00;31;05;29
@Fatherbliss23
I'm not trying to turn a buck on this. Yeah. And to me that that adds legitimacy for myself. Right now, like, oh, well, what's this guy got to say? OK, I mean, this is much more interesting and lends itself an air of believability, you know.

00;31;06;01 - 00;31;29;10
@Trick_O_Moore
Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, like, yeah. So like, let's get let's get into this whole thing, like with you're talking about credentials or whatever. And like, you know, people are saying like, you know, and beliefs and stuff. The Neil deGrasse Tyson one almost doesn't make sense to me how much he doesn't want to touch on this topic.

00;31;29;10 - 00;31;50;23
@Trick_O_Moore
And it's like, I don't know, he's been like totally shut out of like any kind of a communication or whatever. But the man is more popular than anybody else, you know, period in the ecosystem. So it's just it's very strange to me that nobody has worked with him ever.

00;31;52;01 - 00;31;52;25
@Fatherbliss23
To the point.

00;31;52;26 - 00;32;08;28
@Trick_O_Moore
Where it's like he's like, "F" this thing this category because they clearly don't want to deal with me, so I don't want to deal with them kind of a situation versus, you know, what's real and what's not. And it's like super unfortunate because the man's a bloody genius.

00;32;10;02 - 00;32;32;28
@Fatherbliss23
Yeah. And that was where I was referencing a topic that came up on the podcast because they had said like the only the only reasonable explanation they could come up with was like, at this point in our society, if you talk about this topic, you're automatically viewed as not intelligent. You know, it's, it's something for like the backwoods people or something, right?

00;32;32;28 - 00;32;36;14
@Fatherbliss23
Like normal people in cities don't believe that right?

00;32;37;02 - 00;32;38;25
@Trick_O_Moore
But I don't think that's the case. I think.

00;32;39;02 - 00;32;40;21
@Fatherbliss23
I don't think I would ever I.

00;32;40;21 - 00;32;48;07
@Trick_O_Moore
Would almost argue that a lot of the people like in the city or you know, they're asking for this content more than just.

00;32;48;07 - 00;32;48;26
@Fatherbliss23
The opposite.

00;32;49;04 - 00;33;07;05
@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. It's they're feeding their base so you're only seeing you're only seeing like a lot of these like movies and all this stuff come out now because the audience is demanding it. So that means 80% of the population is demanding.

00;33;08;09 - 00;33;11;09
@Fatherbliss23
I don't know, yep.

00;33;11;25 - 00;33;13;20
@Trick_O_Moore
And it's very interesting though.

00;33;14;26 - 00;33;36;18
@Fatherbliss23
It is. It is. And I think that, you know, whether UAP's or anything are revealed to be real, I think what we're seeing is exactly what you just referenced, right? There's, there is media attention and regular people attention on this topic to the point where, well, now everyone's kind of jumping on the bandwagon. Right? And that's both good and bad, you know.

00;33;36;19 - 00;33;42;05
@Fatherbliss23
Well, we'll get a lot of really good information and we'll probably get way more false positives from that, too.

00;33;42;16 - 00;34;16;07
@Trick_O_Moore
Yeah. And, you know, I, I don't really watch too much of like air traffic or anything, but I do every once in a while go and check out like, I don't know, like, like a Monkeywerx kind of guy or somebody like just because he's monitoring the, like, the flight restrictions. And I find that really interesting because like, you know, we're struggling for air like travels right now because people aren't traveling as much as they always had been.

00;34;16;07 - 00;34;44;18
@Trick_O_Moore
Right. Maybe in the past. But there are more flights, which is really strange. And then like there's supposed to be less fuel, which is also kind of strange. And then there's more flight restrictions and there's a lot more air shows this year. So I don't know, there's it's there's a lot of weird stuff going on with like air traffic and air things and then like the air pollution is kind of off the charts.

00;34;44;18 - 00;34;50;07
@Trick_O_Moore
I guess there's 11 volcanoes or something. Yeah. Which is crazy.

00;34;50;07 - 00;35;14;28
@Fatherbliss23
Like the different friends and that to me too, he's speaking of which I suppose we should probably wrap for the night too. So probably on the r/UFOs subreddit. 13 hours ago, there's a transcript of this is what Tom DeLonge, Elizondo and Ross Colthart and others actually believe in more or less to be true. Full Source Discussion Thread.

00;35;15;11 - 00;35;28;20
@Fatherbliss23
It was a leaked call from CIA Director Kit Green, and I've seen this referenced a couple of times today. I don't I don't feel like I want to start talking about it tonight until we both read about it.

00;35;28;22 - 00;35;49;24
@Trick_O_Moore
We might have a little bit of research on that one. Here's my I will ask this question, though. That's a it's a fantastic bullet-point you just brought up, but what's up with all of the leaks lately? Doesn't yeah, NSA have complete autonomy and control over anything we say. Do you think or speak.

00;35;50;25 - 00;35;52;11
@Fatherbliss23
Last I checked, yes.

00;35;54;05 - 00;36;15;25
@Trick_O_Moore
Then how could that possibly be getting out like it? It just seems like very strange why all these weird things are coming out. It's like but that information just doesn't get out. And I don't think like the internal communications are as organized as people would think. They might be.

00;36;16;16 - 00;36;38;02
@Fatherbliss23
True. Right. We've seen evidence of that for sure. Right. I mean, it's it's the old you can attribute to malice, which you can attribute to incompetence. And I think there's just too many people in the kitchen these days. Right? I mean, I think I think the intent is there. But, you know, that's also what gives rise to these theories of misinformation, right?

00;36;38;03 - 00;36;51;24
@Fatherbliss23
Because I think to some degree, that's easier for us to believe than we're like, wait a minute, the folks trying to keep us safe they don't have their poop in the group so much that these information sources get leaked all the time because that seems weird, right?

00;36;52;03 - 00;37;04;27
@Trick_O_Moore
I it really does, man. Like, I, I just find this stuff so interesting, right? Like, OK, like, let's just do a quick thought experiment, OK? OK. There's a lot of people in the United States, right?

00;37;05;17 - 00;37;05;28
@Fatherbliss23
Right.

00;37;06;12 - 00;37;10;14
@Trick_O_Moore
There's supposed to be a census of like 375 million. Right?

00;37;11;19 - 00;37;12;27
@Fatherbliss23
OK, yeah. Well.

00;37;13;25 - 00;37;27;06
@Trick_O_Moore
To specific all, like one source of information was hacked. The Russians apparently and this is the second piece and that was in August. Right? Apparently. Right. Apparently, allegedly. Apparently.

00;37;27;19 - 00;37;28;05
@Fatherbliss23
Allegedly.

00;37;28;19 - 00;37;45;09
@Trick_O_Moore
And this is now October. Right. Right. So could you say that the eyes would have to be focused on the man because there are not in turn 375 million other leaked conversations.

00;37;46;24 - 00;37;50;19
@Fatherbliss23
I mean, that certainly makes sense, right? Holds up. Yeah.

00;37;51;15 - 00;37;53;15
@Trick_O_Moore
I would just I was just curious.

00;37;54;10 - 00;38;18;05
@Fatherbliss23
You know, and I guess and maybe that's my final point for tonight, the world we live in these days is very different. Right. And my my point bringing this up is part of the loud booms and other things. People we're hearing folks mentioned the fact that, you know, they've got a flight recorder app. You know, you referenced Skunkworks.

00;38;18;05 - 00;38;41;00
@Fatherbliss23
I mean, we live in a society now where people actually know to some degree what's in the air. You know, that's that's how we live. That's crazy. You know, that we have that capability. But also, social media has really opened these things up where, you know what, we had the same leaks back in the eighties, probably not. You know, probably not.

00;38;41;00 - 00;38;59;01
@Fatherbliss23
But if we did, how would you know? Right. Because someone would have had to have taken it to a media outlet and broken the story. And it's so much easier to shut down it really shut stuff down. How would you do that? I mean, the second it gets leaked, it's everywhere and it's backed up on, you know, Internet archives and things.

00;38;59;01 - 00;39;04;08
@Fatherbliss23
It's really difficult to scrub it's frankly easier to discredit people than it is to take the story away, right?

00;39;04;16 - 00;39;36;24
@Trick_O_Moore
Oh, yeah. And it even gets crazier with open source, right? Because like yeah. And I think that's why I like some of these companies like Blender and the really awesome ones that are like open source. Like, you mean you got to like Da Vinci resolve with the people, the community they go crazy for this. You know, they all donate tons of time to developing a platform where like, you know, the actual DEV is willing to make this like an open source platform for development of ideas.

00;39;37;23 - 00;39;45;02
@Trick_O_Moore
My God, the progression of humanity he's not turning a book like everybody else.

00;39;45;22 - 00;39;49;02
@Fatherbliss23
It's interesting. It's a good point.

00;39;49;02 - 00;40;15;13
@Trick_O_Moore
Like, I don't know, like, I kind of like, look at a lake like these, like open source companies is like thought leaders of our time space. Right? Like, they are fantastic, you know, and I'll do a shout out to all those open source people out there. Thank you for helping the creators like the father and myself develop. We appreciate you.

00;40;16;21 - 00;40;36;02
@Fatherbliss23
It's true. We live in an amazing time where you can do an awful lot yourself. And I think folks are just kind of waking up to that fact. You know, streaming is just the tip of the iceberg, which we're learning more and more every day. Like, actually, you can take a lot of things into your own hands. And that's that's just one facet, right?

00;40;37;09 - 00;40;57;28
@Fatherbliss23
Yeah. I'll leave you off with the thought, which is earlier tonight I was reading something else which said I thought that was a bold statement, but I like it now. And this was around Twitch and those controversies and things. And what they said was this person it's a question of can you these days make a living off of just streaming or is that a pipe dream?

00;40;57;28 - 00;41;24;21
@Fatherbliss23
That's gone now right and a lot of people said, no, you know, treat it like a hobby. Obviously, don't expect to quit your job. Do you want to be some multi millionaire? Right. But what other folks said is diversify. You can't these days get noticed on just one platform. You're also going to have to create content and go into YouTube and Instagram and the TIKTOK and all these other things.

00;41;24;21 - 00;41;43;06
@Fatherbliss23
And I think that makes sense. Right. But then hooks into what you just said about the technology being there you could do that if you wanted to, if you spent the time researching it. And yeah, it's just fascinating. It's cool. We can make our own documentaries and distribute them these days online and I know, yeah.

00;41;43;16 - 00;41;44;06
@Trick_O_Moore
Like I.

00;41;44;06 - 00;41;44;14
@Fatherbliss23
Will.

00;41;44;27 - 00;42;17;12
@Trick_O_Moore
Think that that's like the beauty of like today's age or whatever, right? Like, you know, like there's so many people out here that are just really busting it, you know, they want to, you know, do things or learn things or whatever. But a lot of people just talk game, right? And like, you really have to I mean, dude I think what I'm, I'm 35 right now and like I've been doing everything I possibly can in my life.

00;42;17;12 - 00;42;41;20
@Trick_O_Moore
Now I know you have to to get to like where we're at right now and we're only just starting to do things that we really wanted to do. And maybe that's because we didn't take enough risks when we're younger. But I always I'm always a strong believer like you're in the place you're in right now to learn and develop to yield that skill at a later date.

00;42;41;20 - 00;43;13;20
@Trick_O_Moore
And, you know, like what you just said, it's it's important. It's important we like stick it out and share information with people because, you know, unfortunately, there really aren't that many sources that are going to be super transparent with you or necessarily want you to succeed. So and I instead of like this you know, this UAP journey, you know, a lot of people who, like, investigate this stuff.

00;43;14;16 - 00;43;17;19
@Trick_O_Moore
They call them Ufologists. Right. Right.

00;43;18;10 - 00;43;20;02
@Fatherbliss23
And so what is a Ufologist?

00;43;20;02 - 00;43;44;01
@Trick_O_Moore
Just like dude like I mean like I could think of a lot of made up terms, but like maybe it's not made up like maybe that's like actually credentialized. Is that a thing? I don't know. But like, I am a strong believer in sharing knowledge over any kind of like a name or putting a label or box in anything.

00;43;44;01 - 00;44;03;20
@Trick_O_Moore
So if we can share knowledge with people in this time, dude power to the people, there's enough beautiful people out here, you know, we can connect with. And you know, share ideas with. I think that's what's missing from a lot of our, eco systems.

00;44;04;23 - 00;44;14;20
@Fatherbliss23
Absolutely dude Well, good discussions we should close for the sake of the viewers. Yes. And yeah. Good stuff. Let's do it again.

00;44;15;15 - 00;44;25;15
@Trick_O_Moore
Yes. More coming to you later this week. But thanks for your time. Thanks for checking out. Trick and Father FTW signing out.